Kid Bookie has decided a very long time ago that he isn’t going to be your average artist.
And with personal influences from Rock, Heavy Mental, Rap and Hip Hop, the South London rapper hopes to reincarnate greatness. Already, he’s released ‘Wide Awake’ and ‘Go To Work’ Remix featuring Lovelle, Scruffizer and Maxsta. In the middle of 2016, he released his collaborative mixtape with America’s Christie entitled ‘You’ll Rate Me When I’m Dead’, and released the music video for the track ‘Premonition’.
In this interview, Kid Bookie explains the science that is within music that separates legends from the one-hit wonders. With this in mind he gives his thoughts in regards to the current elevation of Grime, his inspirations and the thoughts about the Rated Awards that has become a platform for breakthrough talent.
1. How does it feel to return to the music scene?
How does it feel to be back in the game that I never left? It feels the same, but what feels great is that I’m releasing new music under what I enjoy, rather than any other pigeonhole method.
2. Tell us little bit about your new material, for your fans that have been supporting you.
The new material. How can I describe it? I guess it’s a blurr…a confusion between most of my childhood favourite things. Such as Heavy Metal, Rock, Rap, Sonic and Science. I’m a man who enjoys the chemistry of music so when I can out formulas together to create one massive ‘chibang’, I can’t really fool anyone. I’m a man that likes to fuse science, chemistry and maths into music; creating a formula to create the one output I believe that is experiment, as they would say in science.
3. Were you a lover of maths and science as a subjects at school? Since you state that you love to fuse the formulas of these projects into your material.
I hate maths! But I like the idea of the science of the music i.e. the theory of music, the soundwaves, how to make something correlate. How you make music that gravitates to a certain demographic etc. I try to focus on the people…the humans. Not just one section of them.
4. Do feel like that the vibration of music has changed in Hip Hop for example? Many lovers of the genre and the makers of the it have outspoken talked about the commercialisation of the sound.
I don’t it’s commercialised too tough. To understand it like that I think you have to a person who enjoys music theory, and I feel like music today I guess…whether it be American or English, is run by the populist. Whoever is hot at the time, their music translates to a certain widespread group. So when you have someone like Dre and Eminem back in day…when they were big rap was the trend. Now you have Drakes, the Lil Yatchies and so what, people grow up having this style. So what do we do? We learn through manipulation and imitation. Right? Everything around us is of manipulation and imitation. We’re all created by manipulation. That’s what I believe music has become. When someone’s hot the style that they have translate so much to other people that they create that style, and then it becomes a big style and then everything becomes easier. But I think music right now is just finding a hot beat and say (vocally brings out chords) and place autotunes of that…
5. How do you as an artist don’t fall to that pressure?
You need to understand this — I’m in a cave, I listen in my backcave. I only come out of it unless I have to eat or something (which is everyday to be honest but). It’s not that I’m ignorant to it but I don’t hear nutin’. I hear my peers, I hear what I sometimes hear on the radio, but I don’t go and start checking for music. It’s all about individualism.
6. Explain the science of Kid Bookie’s new sound. Describe it in three words.
If I was to describe my new sonics yeah, I would say…it’s very articulate. First of all, I don’t pick beats because I believe it sounds dope. Every beat has a certain sonic, and your voice has to translate towards that frequency too, If a beat is toward a major or minor, you have to place your voice toward that major or minor, even when you’re rapping in that sense. Like I said before, it’s the certain levels in the sense of how you translate music. I approach music as a student. I’m always experimenting. I don’t have the idea of preconceive when I go to make it. I couldn’t tell you, and that’s the magic of it creating something out of nothing. I can’t give you it because I don’t know what’s going to happen, even if it’s a terrible tune. People kind of give you what you are. You know what you make, I make certain sound. One that isn’t widespread or current, but I always believe that when you have a single anomaly, that anomaly alone can create more damage than a big group; because when everyone is stuck together and you that one there, you just focus on that one because that one could be really powerful. So I couldn’t really give you the direct description.
7. You’ve stated that you music is a mixture of Heavy Mental, Rock and Rap. Is it something similar to the likes of what Rizzle Kicks do?
Nah! Hell no, not like that because they…you see their accents, their accents are different to mine. Accents are very important; especially in music too. Rizzle Kicks have the ‘oh no l’m coming back with a type of sound and flow. Running down the road with a big ol’ goat and he couldn’t stand it.’ I don’t have that dialect, and I’ll never sound like that even if I try to, I can only imitate it. Even coming from where I come from just being from South London, you already have a bent dialect anyways. Everyone has got a unique voice. We’re all individuals but it’s how do tap into your head to.be an influence. When I say influence, I don’t necessary mean your idols — but you manipulate what they give and create your own.
8. So who are your inspirations and how are you not like them? How do you manipulate their music to create your own?
My peers. My peers are my biggest inspiration. System Of A Doubt, they were dope. I listened to a hell of D-12 and Eminem when I was young. Everything I’ve heard has always be a take to create, rather than it being a carbon copy. We say Young Thug sounds a bit like Lil’ Wayne because that’s carbon copy, but Big L didn’t sound like Em; even though Eminem took some of Big L’s influence. So, that’s how I like to take. You don’t take the whole thing, you just take what you understand and then manipulate because you’re never going to be like that person.
11a). Big Narstie stated in his interview on Channel 4 in regards to Grime that the response has been a sense of both racism and classism; seeing that the whole music genre is now in it’s golden age and it began with people from ‘underprivileged backgrounds’. Do think that this was the reason that there wasn’t any Grime artists nominated at the Brits last year?
Yeah definitely, because I guess when you’re on a plateau with other people that share what you done, but get recognised for it, then there’s a certain issue. That’s why I believe. Whether it be Grime, Rap anything, when you’ve been stigmatised for so long and at the end of the day…when they say ‘underprivileged’ to a privileged man it may mean not having £100 for a day. It’s funny about class as well
The other day I was just coming back from Atlanta. I was in premium economy, and I thought to myself ‘Why am I in premium economy?’ The food they gave me was different from economy and the other one was different food. I began to question ‘Are you really giving me different food based on my class and where I’ve chosen to sit on this plane?’ The class system isn’t that deep you know. I’m sitting there like I’m in a class system on the plane that if we all crash — we all die together, there’ll be no class. There’s no class in dying.
b) Do you think that this purpose of exclusion has caused many of us go out there and create a platform for ourselves?
It’s the establishment. When you have to go up against an establishment, you make your own establishment. So that now (which you create) is an establishment; that is now an official award. Whether it be as big as the Brits…but then you know, if we having artist that are being recognised by Brits, then we have a certain level. If you were giving artists that level of awards that the Brits would recognise as well when that whole madness happened, then yeah that’s an establishment now. So yeah, you have to do it yourself because without before the Brits, whether it’ll be a white class or anything else, there wasn’t no Brits, and now an establishment has been made. Rated has now become an award. To win both a Rated and a Brit, one can still be happy. If you’re going against an establishment to make an establishment, you’ve kind of done the chess mate because now you have an establishment and it gets coverage. The BBC has covered it so now (the Rated Awards) will reach all sorts of classes.
12) How do you feel about the likes of Wiley, Skepta, JME and Kano being recognised by the mainstream public? These are the guys that started the whole Grime music.
At the end of the day Grime is a sub-genre that has now come in prominence. Grime is my favourite style of music, ah but today I feel like listening to R&B. Grime is a genre, that what is being created. But when you put Grime towards Rock or even Rap Hip/Hop…they’ve been around for 30, 40 years. The type of mass coverage, elaborate madness and legends that have come from this thing, Jimmy Paige, Jimmy Hendrix. Do you know the skills that these people had? I’m British man in the scene who listens to legends that had talent. We had Queen, we had Freddie Mercury doing ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’. Are you mad? Know where your place is. Still fight for it, but know your place. You can’t put a ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ against ‘Shutdown’ — it’s not the same. I’m not discrediting Skepta’s ‘Shutdown’ nor anyone that does that kind of music. But ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ was science bruv. Jimmy Hendrix doing the solo of the American Anthem back in the day was crazy. Don’t discredit that skill too just because you do this. You have to know your levels; we’re still building. This (Grime) has only been 10 + years in. We’re building legends. Some of the legends in other music genres are dead, we haven’t got legends that have died yet. We’re still early. For this thing, give it the next ten because we have social media and a whole influx of youth.
The bars has been set a long time ago.
13). How can people find out more about you?
You can hit me up on social media. @kidbookie on Twitter, Instagram @kidbookie and Facebook Kid Bookie. Or you hit me up in real life as Kid Bookie because that’s who I am.